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More Fukushima Reports...

Post by Helen22 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:11 am

I have seen some posters have been interested in the subject, so here are a couple of fresh documents about Fukushima.

US claims mortality rates have increased because of Fukushima fallout and the decontamination plan for the reactors at the site,
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Re: More Fukushima Reports...

Post by HarrisonJ » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:45 am

Helen22 wrote:I have seen some posters have been interested in the subject, so here are a couple of fresh documents about Fukushima.

US claims mortality rates have increased because of Fukushima fallout and the decontamination plan for the reactors at the site,
Thank you Hellen22, but I think that in all fairness, one should also take a look at the Scientific American article here http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/obs ... ath-study/ that discusses the article about the increased deaths in the USA.

Apparently, based on the article, the authors of the study may have taken a bit too much editorial liberty with facts and the truth.

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Post by John HG » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:33 pm

What did you expect? Look at the author's name, Joe Mangano. If you do a google search you'll find lots of articles that he has authored where the nuclear power industry is to blame for all sorts of things. I bet that if the weather drastically changed, tomorrow, he'll publish an article about the nuclear power industry has caused the change - if he hasn't already written such an article :-(

What I am really disappointed with is the journal publishing the article in the first place. It used to be that such journals were the authoritative "goto sources" for information, because they are refereed, so you know that the article has been reviewed by knowledgeable people in the industry, before being accepted for publication. I guess that's not the case any more, because if it was, they would have caught the lies (or stretching of the truth, as some might call it). Too bad :-(

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Post by Helen22 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:57 pm

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I didn't say I agreed with the report :-) I was just bringing it to people's attention, that's all!
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Post by MikeTil » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:14 am

John HG wrote:What did you expect? Look at the author's name, Joe Mangano. If you do a google search you'll find lots of articles that he has authored where the nuclear power industry is to blame for all sorts of things. I bet that if the weather drastically changed, tomorrow, he'll publish an article about the nuclear power industry has caused the change - if he hasn't already written such an article
Oh come on. Just because one doesn't agree with you, or your opinion, it doesn't make them wrong! I read the report and it doesn't sound like they made things up.

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Post by John HG » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:50 pm

MikeTil wrote:
John HGl wrote: What did you expect? Look at the author's name, Joe Mangano. If you do a google search you'll find lots of articles that he has authored where the nuclear power industry is to blame for all sorts of things. I bet that if the weather drastically changed, tomorrow, he'll publish an article about the nuclear power industry has caused the change - if he hasn't already written such an article
Oh come on. Just because one doesn't agree with you, or your opinion, it doesn't make them wrong! I read the report and it doesn't sound like they made things up.
It has nothing to do with anyone agreeing with my opinion! We are not talking about opinions here, we are talking about real data and the science of analyzing such data. And, I am not the one discrediting the author(s), look at the referenced Scientific American article and judge for yourself!

Just because someone has a degree and can write a study that "sounds" important, it doesn't make it true! I am sure we are all familiar with Dr. Wakefield's study from the UK about autism and vaccines. It was reviewed and published in one of the most prestigious journals in the world, only to be renounced by 10 out of its 13 authors and eventually retracted by Lancet. The problem is that the damage that was done by the study, where they falsified the data, will take MANY years to be undone. I guess what I'm saying is that just because a study is published by a respectable journal it doesn't make it "absolutely" true/correct.

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